04 août 2005 19:09

I know about this case mainly from the media and the book form prison MASS WITH MARY by Dress and Letourneau. All in all, I still come up with the same opinion. People need to sleep with people over the age of AT LEAST 15!!!!!!!! COME ON!!!!!

08 juillet 2005 18:49

Jesus says in the bible "Thous shalt not judge, or you will be judged" Yes, what Mary did was wrong, but as years went by, their love has proven to be true for each other no matter what the world thinks. By the way, Vili is over 18, he is a young man now and is well able to be a man and to take care of his responsibilities. I can say that he sounds mature than his age, and I just want to say to Mary Kay that I love her for the sweet loving gentle spirit that she is. There is no one perfect in this life. If there was, they would've been translated into God's bossom. But that's not the case with any man here on earth. Everyone displeases God in their thoughts, their actions and their words, there is none perfect but Jesus Christ himself and God the Father. So who are these idiots to say otherwise!!!!!! PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE MARY AND VILI, I WILL SAY THIS TO YOU ALL: "Think before you speak" Think of your ownselves and not judge others. Jesus also said "Let him who is perfect cast the first stone". Well, none of those people did, they all walked away leaving the harlot and Jesus alone, then Jesus said to the woman, "Go, and sin no more, your faith heals you" So there, Live to Love and not to kill.
MY BEST WISHES TO YOU MARY KAY AND VILI AND YOUR FAMILY.

GOD BLESS,

Ritz from the South Pacific Island.

23 juin 2005 23:43

Believe this: Christina Dress and Mary Kay Letourneau are FAR MORE than "friends"...that could explain any difficulties at the wedding! I was incarcerated with them both and I know the real deal! Vilie is just part of the 'plan' I'm sure...$$$...and Dress and Letourneau have written a book together called "MASS WITH MARY: THE PRISON YEARS which is constantly in the media. I happen to know that they failed to mention their love affair in the book. Hmm.

23 juin 2005 18:23

I watched Christina Dress, Mary Kay Letourneaua's prison girlfirend (who wrote a book called Mass With Mary) leave the Letourneau wedding VERY upset. Dress arrived in a white stretch limo and was allowed private entry to the 'oh so secured' event. I'd love to know what REALLY happened.

---Dying to know
"Mass With Mary" reader

30 mai 2005 15:59

i want to say i really found the man of my dreams when i found my boyfriend scott hes 24 and im 40 see i was married to my boyfriend scotts uncle i wasnt in a happy relationship but anyways my husband ended up going to jail and spent 2 yrs there and in the mean time his nephew scott was comming around and helping me out with my kids we'd go to the show together and to dinner even if it was mcdonalds and we laughed all the time together he even dissed his friends and family to come over well one day something happend we started to grow closer and we started to get more and more involved well next thing i knew it was time for my husband to come home well scott didnt like that at all he finally told my husband he was in love with me and he wanted to be with me i was in total shock i never thought he would have the nerve to admit it.. my husband argued that he was a boy and he would never ever be a man to take care of me like a real man should.. and if i chose to be with him then leave but dont come back crying well i took me some time cause i was really nerves wondering if this was going to really last and how the family would have felt about it well he did admit to the family and yes we did have or problems but everytime someone would start on me my boyfriend was right there to take my back even with his brothers and parents well now they know is been three years for us and they didnt accomplish breaking us up and he is a man he takes good care of me and has proved he can to everyone remember age is nothing but a number GOD gives us but our heat and feelings stays the same

30 mai 2005 15:35

i just want to say there should be more MEN like villi standing up for the one he loves cause all i can say if your a man in love with a younger so what and your over 18 who cares... who are you trying to make happy your friends and family or your self i know if it was me id take a older women over any of this younger hood rats all they think about is who next they can sleep with or whos money they can get all dumb ass headgames something a older women wont do at least i know a older women could take better care of me then and younghoodrat ever could so fellows if your in love with a older women grab whats between your legs and see your a man and forget who disagrees and get the with the women you love even if shes is older no man should hold it inside let the world know and youll see it becomes easier everday once you admit it and the feeling will be lifted off your chest so i say go for it men if you got that older woman i believe even younger man could be mentally and as intelligent as a older man its how he acts good luck to all you men and women out there

29 mai 2005 15:09

i just want to say good luck to mary and villi if you love someone hold on to them dont let go no matter who gets involved..love is between 2 people not 50 or 100 just 2 people fate and desitny bring to people together and love from the heart no matter how hard you try to fight it or replace it with someone else its always there when you see eachother or hear each others voice or a picture thats why people have memories and no one can take that from you no matter how they try love is a strong thing a feeling from the heart and you cant fight it no matter how hard you try to please everyone else.. a heart is filled with love and a heart can get broken and if you go against what your heart is telling you .. you will never be happy and regret everday of your life when you see the one you love is with someone else when they could have been with you if you would have only stepped up for the love you were feeling in side people wonder how relationships last years and years its the love 2 people have for each other and the trust,cummunication,a faithfulness to there hearts that make a relationship last forever im 55yrs and my boyfriend is 40 and we have been married for over 15 yrs so whos to say love dont last ...bologna stay forever tru mary and villi i wish you health ,wealth and happiness mind you we did stop seeing each other due to friends and family and we were only denying our self of happiness and love and finally we couldnt take it outr of the blue he purposed i accepted and were together till this day we had a couple of friends that disagreed and family to but they finally excepted it and there still by us today

29 mai 2005 14:14

hey mary and villi this is tommy im involved in and older women relationship im 27 and my girl is 43 ive been with her since i was 19 years old and to say one thing my parents disapproved because she was my mothers friend and her daughter went to school with me back in the day and they tried everything to break us apart BUT it didnt work i love this women very much and were about to get married in oct on sweetest day ive been with other girls my age and all they do is argue complain money money money and play head games if things didnt go there way they automatically tried sleeping with my brother or my relatives and who wants that problems then i met casey thru my mom i dint know how she was going to take it but i keep flirting with her and telling her that i never had a older women but if i did i wanted it to be her well i started out basically a game until i seen that she was really into me and i was into her and she played no head games with me even though i played mine all she told me was if you chose to be a player then tell me but if i chose to sleep around she wanted the truth to know about it well everytime i tried to play a game on her she wasnt buying it because shes been where i was trying to go you figure with our age diffrences she been thru all the game playing and headgames she takes really good care of me more then any of the other younger girls ive been with she makes my meals i get dinner or breakfast in bed she does all my laudry and takes very good care of me and she respects me as a man not as the younger man we discuss things together as partners and for along time my mother and father told me to chose them or her and i had to tell them if i give them my answer they would be hurt so they either had to accept it or loose me my mother even tried to bring my ex younger girlfriend back in the picture and to be honest i wouldnt do anything to risk loosing what i have my girl has been there thru everything ive been thru and put her thru she stood by my side and to be truthful once i told my friends how i felt about her and i put them in the spot of either they have to except her to keep our friendship they chose to except it i really thought id loose my friends even though i didnt care if i didnt but my friends stuck by me and excepted it it took my parents a long time to except it like over a year or so but now they see they cant come between us nomatter what i do i was even in a bar with my girlfirend and ran into some old friends of mine and a exgirlfriend mined you shes a dancer and she tried to make a move on me when i was leaving out of the bathroom and i turned her down i have mad love for my girl i know now i could never find anyone better then her even if i found i perfect 10 i would have to worry everday if shes cheating or if shell dump me my girl is very nice looking and totally faithfull to me i even told my girl about the exgirlfriend trying to make her move and all she said if thats what you want go for it but i couldnt so dont believe a older women and younger man relationship cant work cause were living proof and we struggled thru family and friends to except it and finally they did there all commin to our wedding have good luck marry and villi goodbye from tommy

29 mai 2005 13:43

I believe that when to people are in love who cares about age as long as they dont care then why should everyone else.. love has no age limit i believe in finding true love ..and if villi believes mary is his true love and mary believes villi is hers then what right does someone have to stop it.. so what if hes 20 yrs younger maybe hes a man stuck in a younger mans body .. to many people have envied older women and youger man relationships for too long her ex husband tried everything to stop her from loving villi but villi stuck by her side and waited that is true love and he is definetly a real man to prove to his FRIENDS and FAMILY no matter what he was going to be with mary and marry her he proved to everyone in the world he was a man when he said I DO till death due them part any man that can do that is definetly a knight and shinning armor and mary is very lucky to have found him.. atleast he wasnt a lil boy in denying his love for her he stood head up chin up and admitted to loving her and wanting to mary her even to his family friends and his parents you definetly know when your man truly loves you when he can face everyone and not be ashmed or embaressed about his feelings and for eveyone who thinks this wont last i believe it will cause when two people love each other and stand by eachother no mattter what obsticales or what people are trying to bring them down they will build a wall around them so strong that no one can tear it down and eventually in time the ones that try to break these two lovers apart will see it isnt working and they will finally leave them alone and let them be a women dont vary rarely find a man that faces things like a man and stands up for his rights but mary found one and shes lucky to have hin there licky to have eachother...havent you heard the old saying a younger man will always prove hes a better man then the ex..thats the male instink in any man all men have to prove a point to the ex husband her ex is just mad that it took a younger man to make her happy so if theres any younger guys (ONLY) over 18 yrs old and your in love with a older women i say stay with her and make you and her happy cause this relationship with villi and mary is gonna last thats the tru meaning of love no matter what the problems may be that come there way they stick it out together and people envy them type of realationships cause they know that cant break it apart a older women will always take care of a younger man sexually ,emotionally there not into head games like these younger girls whos out to get even everytime she gets hurt useing other guys to get him jealous.... and a younger man who has feelings for the older women will always respect and will appreciate everything a older woman will do for him like food on the table ,clean clothes laid out for him no head games, communication and continuos love and respect him also ..so i say congradulations to you mary and villi and best wishes to you HOLD YOUR HEAD UP and stay strong and forget all those haters out there as long as you both love eachother youll make it a long lasting time together i wish there were more MEN out there like villi who stood up for you and his love for you...you are definetly a MAN villi and for your exhusband mary hes just hating cause he wasnt man enuff for you and hes hating it i believe in destiny and this relationship was destine to be together and dont let anyone come between that good luck and many more to come P.S. and if anyone else out there doesnt agree that they you should have gotten married well as long as you both got eachother you dont need anyone else you have eachother love revolves around you both not around everyone else this is you life and live it to the fullest make your self happy you dont have to make anyone else happy just yourselves and for your family or friends who disagreed with this then let them go cause you dont need them in your lives cause if they loved you and cared about you and your feelings they would stick by you side 100% thats how you will know who your friends are and who you family is and the ones that diagree are you enimies..well take care mary and villi best wishes too you and your family we need more honest a faithful me like villi..the end

25 mai 2005 20:29

All you 'supporters' have a screw loose. This woman is a rapist pure and simple. Those who claim males under the same circumstances are not treated as harshly, and given lighter sentences are ignorant. If anything male child rapists are given longer sentences and suffer more in prison from the other prisoners. This story is in the media, because there is a certain sick segment who think it's romantic that she was so 'in love' with this young boy. That boy has been emotionally damaged by her actions, that's why he can't separate from her and form healthy relationships. That's not romance, it's the twisted machinations of a child rapist.

23 mai 2005 05:33

I could not help but feel for Mary Kay. HEr love goes beyond her. It is an exceptional feeling that needs exceptional understanding. I really admire her for what she stands for. Be strong Mary Kay. I am following your life. You are such a strong person with a strong heart and deserves to be happy no matter what it costs. That is a true love. You are an inspiration.

08 mai 2005 05:15

I have a son - who is now grown and married and the father of three young children.

This whole case engraged me from the beginning. I can assure you that if it were MY twelve year old son being sexually-ABUSED by one of his teachers that there would certainly be an arrest and a HUGE outcry from me and my husband. We send our children to school with the understanding that they are there to be taught - not to be raped. What a shame this woman is to the teaching profession!

Being against Mary Kay LeTourneau and her outrageous behaviour has nothing to do with race - it has EVERYTHING to do with sexual abuse and rape. What are people thinking who are condoning this!!!!???? She had four children already, whom she supposedly loves - does no one see how she has messed up their young lives, for her own gratification? She has two more younger children now - can you imagine how they will feel when they are older and learn of their beginnings? And yet she talks at this moment as if nothing has happened out of the ordinary and that we all should just be happy for them and their children. Is she crazy or what??????

She is certainly someone I would watch closely if there were any children around - especially young boys.

28 avril 2005 20:11

Mary Kay Letourneau had sex with a 13 year old boy. Had Mary been a Mark and Villi named Jill I imagine there would be no one supporting her. Her ORIGINAL sentence was suspended, NO jail time. It wasn't until she was repeatedly caught with this young BOY that she was sent to prison and desevedly so. Mary kay has a screw loose an so do her supporters. She actually stated that she felt the opposition to their relationship was based more on bigotry that the age issue. C'mon, if she and Villi had met this year and gotten engaged no one would have given a damn if there was a 21 year age difference or that Villi was dark skinned. 33 year old adults cannot havew sex with 13 year old children, that's it, bottom line. And the fact that she was his teacher only makes it worse.

03 mars 2005 17:59

I think that it is up to the two of them and only the two of them. No one should have gotten in there buissness i the first place. But they are to gether now and hopefully happy. They are in love and everyone can see that now so i think that it is wonderful

15 décembre 2004 13:52

I like to comment on the situation of Mary Kay and her young lover. It should never have come to
the point of her going to jail for 7 yrs. Maybe 2 yrs but not that long. Mothers should see there children, not be taken away for any reason,even molestion. I am engaged 22 yrs old and i do love my fiancee and i am trying my best to not fall for someone who is 16. I am a woman who is trying to find my soulmate. My fiancee knows him and doesn't want us to have contact, but we can't help it. We feel close as friends for now. But if i am not married by the time he turns 18 well see what happens. Mary kay may be 21 yrs older than Villi but see does not deserve all the crap that is going on with her. Let her be with him and leave them alone. If Villi's mom is okay with it let it be. well so much for now.

10 novembre 2004 00:45

Hi, I'm Miranda and I like to comment on Mary Kay Letourneau going to jail. I think that she should not have been put in jail. Because you can not stop love if you love somebody you love them, And nobody should try to stop that love between her and Vili. My uncle married a girl that is 16 years old and he is 37 years old, But I think that was wrong to take her away from Vili and her kids. Well going to go now just wonted to give my input on this.

20 octobre 2004 15:36

je laisserai juste un message :
"qu'importe l'âge, la couleur de peau, la taille, les gens s'aiment à cause de leur différences"
Je trouve sa injuste. Cette histoire est la preuve que l'amour et la justice ne vont pas ensemble

26 septembre 2004 02:09

I am not here to bash Mary Kay or Vili .
I am only commenting because a year after she had
this happen to her it happened to me. I had a young man take a liking too me. Knowing his life made it hard for me not to develop strong feeling for this person . I did not fall in love
I would have liked it to be a diiferent time maybe when he was older .
i could now probably fall head over heals for this man and he is a man now. so i guess morally it would be ok but people would still look at me crazy.. I think it is crazy that what used to be OK old men marrying little girls was OK.. now women fall in love with a young man. They go to Jail THIS IS CRAZY TO ME!!!

08 août 2004 09:54

Mary Kay Letourneau does not deserve to be treated like that. If it were a male I don't think the court would be so harsh. Mhy all the media attention to her it ain't fair and I think it's sexist.

04 août 2004 15:19

I wrote the initial comment, and have no problem claiming it. Laziness is the primary reason for my anonymity.

You seem to be confusing media exposure with legal sentencing. While it is true that her case got more than the usual media coverage due to her gender, legal sentencing guidelines do not take gender or media coverage into consideration, and give minimum and maximum sentences dependent upon offense. It is worth noting again that Letourneau violated her parole conditions and therefore legally mandated the extension of her own sentence.

A judge may take her gender into consideration, and and in all likelihood did. To use your own argument against you, while men have earned a certain degree of suspicion with regard to positions of trust involving children, conversely that degree of suspicion is greatly lessened for women. Letourneau is unrepentant and has already demonstrated recidivist behavior.

If your complaint is that sentencing guidelines are not punitive enough for rapists and incestuous fathers, I couldn't agree more. The fact that this woman is back in society is chilling to anyone with children.

04 août 2004 10:52

Interesting point of view. Quite anonymous too. I love people who have strong personal convictions, strong enough that they can't even put their name next to them.

But it's your right, so I'll respect that.

The post questions why she was treated so harshly by the courts. You reply by defining what you feel is the severity of her offenses. Fine. I'll phrase the question differently than the way Isabelle did then: why does she get a more severe penalty than a number of incestuous male offenders and rapists get?

Funny, I don't recall rapists getting anywhere near the kind of exposure she got. I don't recall incestuous fathers getting the kind of press coverage she got.

What was being questioned was not guilt or innocence. What was being questioned in the post was why the harshness. My take on it: because she was a woman, and yes, because of her position of authority.

However, add to that the fact that it made for crunchy news and ratings. Sadly, male rapists and incestuous fathers are just too common nowadays to have that kind of drawing power, and they don't get that kind of treatment either.

04 août 2004 08:43

Because, quite simply, she is a danger to children. Even if you want to argue that 12 is a valid age of consent - which seems highly specious - the facts are that she abused a position of power and trust as an elementary school teacher when she had an affair with one of her students, she had a husband and four children at the time she did this (which makes me wonder which children she is referring to when she says she wants to get back to being a mother in the article above), and she completely disregarded the welfare of her new babies by violating her parole and having another child by this boy. This guaranteed her return to prison, a condition not conducive to good parenting.

By just about any definition, societal or legal, this makes her a recidivist pedophiliac adulteror with abhorrent parenting skills. Will you defend her?